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PostSubject: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 8:26 pm

Just wondering how many of ya have a dark spirit bound to you? Also, what are your experiences with it?


Do you believe the term "dark spirit" is correct for such spirits? After all, just because they are titled "dark" does not mean they act "dark". They have the opinion of chosing between light and dark, just as any spirit/soul is given. If they chose good... do you still call them "dark"?

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeTue Jul 13, 2010 9:13 pm

Well I am not bonded to any spirit yet.

I actually don't like that they call these spirits "Dark spirits" because as you said they choose there path.

But I believe that they are called "Dark spirits" because the energy that they give off is dark.

It might also be because some are more easily used for dark magik and some are more easily used for white magik.

It all depends in what you believe.

Just remember "dark spirits" can choose the path of light...and white spirits can choose the path of dark...never judge on someone elses energy.
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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 09, 2010 1:49 am

Hello,

I don't consider the idea of "dark" as "bad" and "light" as good.
Those are just the ideas of humankind, which does not mean it has anything to do with the truth.

It happens that I meet one of the 'darker' guys ;-) but as with everyone, I meet them with respect, and had never any trouble with them.

I guess the 'worst' beings existing will still be humans ;-)


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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeSat Aug 14, 2010 6:25 pm

Shade...we completely believe the same!
I really don't like the idea of spirits being separated into different kinds of categories such as dark and light.

Its all on the intentions.
If your attentions are to hurt then they are to hurt and sooner in life karma will get back at the person.

Your intentions are good then they are!

people are afraid of "Dark" spirits because of the category that they are in.....even the whitest of spirits can do harm as any other.

But that is just my opinion...Please do not think that I am trying to tell you to believe in my opinions.
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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 15, 2010 6:54 am

Hi Ella,

I think we are here to speak about our opinions and it is interesting to read them.

I for example have a slightly different point of view concerning karma (we could talk about that one in a different thread if you like)
But 'intentions' was the word I have been looking for.


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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 15, 2010 2:37 pm

Evil or Dark is a mindset, nothing else.

However concerning the connotations behind the words, "Dark, Evil" etc. It's safe to assume that if something has a bad stereotype that it's there for a reason.

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 15, 2010 3:18 pm

Hello Martyr,

I see 'darkness' as something calm and soft, so nothing 'evil' there.

What would be the 'reason' in your eyes?


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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeSun Aug 15, 2010 3:44 pm

Well i added the modifier 'Evil or Dark is a mindset' to clarify that ones perceptions are open to interpretation.

Darkness - to me - is welcoming. I enjoy being in the dark.

Evil for me though is odd. I see true evil as indifference. When something - by defintion - is neither good nor bad then for me it becomes evil. A neutral force is capable of anything with no regards for the consequences.


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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 5:19 am

Hello Martyr,

Reading your opinions brings to my mind that you might consider 'taoists' as evil.

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 6:22 am

It's my understanding that their belief is that Good & Evil cancel eachother out? Often refered to as "Karma".

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 8:43 am

Hello Martyr,

That is not exactly right.
Their belief is that good and evil is only in the eye of the beholder. They don't believe in duality.

So they are not karmic

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 11:31 am

Alright, i wasn't sure =)

So they believe good & bad to be relative to the person or the circumstances?

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They believe that it is only a figment of imagination and because people believe in good and evil, they create it
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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 16, 2010 1:17 pm

Isn't that view flawed?

If evil & bad are mere figments of imagination then how can you believe that they exist at the same time?

Your statement "because people believe in good and evil, they create it" shows they do believe that it exists, but also believe it's in the imagination?

Or is the belief that good & bad are relative to the person? What's good for one person is evil for another? etc.

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"MartyrYour statement "because people believe in good and evil, they create it" shows they do believe that it exists, but also believe it's in the imagination?

Hello Martyr

No it doesn't
It simply explains what happens to those who believe it ;-)


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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 17, 2010 3:32 am

If it's created & they accept that it is. Then they have to believe it exists at the same time.

The semi-exception is that they can believe it's a relative force.

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Hello Martyr,

That is just your point of view.

This is like the question I once found on a german forum, when they asked if my belief could explain all the bad stuff that happens all the time.
My answer was my belief doesn't need to explain it, because nobody had lived by it ;-)

Here it is the same.
If I know that my definition of good creates evil, I stop defining.

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 17, 2010 6:10 am

So you have no defintions of Good & Evil? No moral compass?

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Ethics yes, I do what has to be done
But no moral compass, as morality has been made by mankind

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Odd.

So your solution to 'bad' things happening is to deny their definition and thus create them into a neutral or positive force? Also you believe that you should do what you need to & to hell with the blowback the people around you may face?

To be honest, and please don't take this the wrong way - but you sound like a psycopath, a person who understands emotion but doesn't actually feel it. Either that or your female Razz

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Hello Martyr,

First of all, if whatever has to be done is done by the way and 'motive' of Tao, there will be no blowback.

The 'thing' about what you call 'denying their definition' is far easier: it is called "who am I to judge?"

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PostSubject: Re: Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...?   Vamps, Weres, Djinn... etc...? I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 17, 2010 10:12 am

Shade wrote:
Hello Martyr,
"who am I to judge?"
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A human being. Just like me. =)

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Hy Martyr,

Maybe you think, your judging will help.
I don't think like that, because I don't like to be judged either.

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It depends on the way that you are judging I believe.
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Hello Ella,

And who defines it?
One human being putting him- or herself above others.

When one person judges something to be bad for example
and a second person judges the same thing to be good, this second person judges the first person along with it, and so on.

That is why I don't play this game ;-)

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